Comments on: Senate Bill Would Allow US Military To Indefinitely Detain Americans Without Charge Or Trial Anywhere In The World http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2011/11/28/senate-bill-would-allow-us-military-to-indefinitely-detain-americans-without-charge-or-trial-anywhere-in-the-world/ The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin Mon, 20 May 2013 00:26:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Marilyn Gjerdrum http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2011/11/28/senate-bill-would-allow-us-military-to-indefinitely-detain-americans-without-charge-or-trial-anywhere-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-111133 Marilyn Gjerdrum Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:11:47 +0000 http://www.infiniteunknown.net/?p=45183#comment-111133 This is so upsetting, I cannot find words to express my thoughts. A call to our Senator Boxer resulted with a "no comment." We are seen as a rogue nation around the world, and this proves it. I am heartsick. I am advanced in years, and remember when we had such civil rights as habeas corpus.....it was all taken away while Americans slept. Our big mistake as a culture was to allow the government to run itself. We were all so properous, so busy.....stopped paying attention. Those of us who did pay attention and objected were given no voice. The development of the Internet changed that. So, this week, they are censoring the Internet and going to pass this outrage of a law. If anyone else tells me the democrats are any different than the republicans, I wll scream. We live in a corporate oligarchy, and OWS has managed to upset them. They thought they had the propaganda covered with corporate media....they forgot the Internet. Now, they want to shut it down. I have spent my long life with engineers, they will develop alternative channels of information. But, with a police state, it will be much harder. This is so upsetting, I cannot find words to express my thoughts. A call to our Senator Boxer resulted with a “no comment.” We are seen as a rogue nation around the world, and this proves it.
I am heartsick. I am advanced in years, and remember when we had such civil rights as habeas corpus…..it was all taken away while Americans slept. Our big mistake as a culture was to allow the government to run itself. We were all so properous, so busy…..stopped paying attention. Those of us who did pay attention and objected were given no voice. The development of the Internet changed that. So, this week, they are censoring the Internet and going to pass this outrage of a law.
If anyone else tells me the democrats are any different than the republicans, I wll scream. We live in a corporate oligarchy, and OWS has managed to upset them. They thought they had the propaganda covered with corporate media….they forgot the Internet. Now, they want to shut it down. I have spent my long life with engineers, they will develop alternative channels of information. But, with a police state, it will be much harder.

]]> By: Boxcutter McGee http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2011/11/28/senate-bill-would-allow-us-military-to-indefinitely-detain-americans-without-charge-or-trial-anywhere-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-111090 Boxcutter McGee Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:23:28 +0000 http://www.infiniteunknown.net/?p=45183#comment-111090 <a href="http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2011/11/27/as-written-sections-1031-and-1032-of-s-1867-does-not-apply-to-u-s-citizens/" rel="nofollow">As Written Sections 1031 and 1032 of S. 1867 Do NOT Apply to U.S. Citizens</a> <a href="http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2011/11/27/udall-amendment-sa-1112-to-include-u-s-citizens-and-lawful-resident-aliens-in-military-detentions/" rel="nofollow">Udall Amendment SA 1112 To INCLUDE U.S. Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens in Military Detentions</a> "Sen. Udall is attempting to provide the act of congress needed to by-pass the Posse Comitatus Act <b>and the ACLU wants you to help him do it</b> In direct contradiction to the bill as written, one of Udall’s amendments to s. 1867 will include language that makes it clear that military detentions “<b>extends to citizens of the United States and lawful resident aliens of the United States</b>“" As Written Sections 1031 and 1032 of S. 1867 Do NOT Apply to U.S. Citizens

Udall Amendment SA 1112 To INCLUDE U.S. Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens in Military Detentions

“Sen. Udall is attempting to provide the act of congress needed to by-pass the Posse Comitatus Act and the ACLU wants you to help him do it

In direct contradiction to the bill as written, one of Udall’s amendments to s. 1867 will include language that makes it clear that military detentions “extends to citizens of the United States and lawful resident aliens of the United States“”

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