Pilot Communication: Only 4 People on Doomed Polish Crash Plane

And now the video with the 4 gunshots makes perfect sense.


The Polish plane that crashed in Smolensk, western Russia, on April 10th had only four people on board, audio recordings of the pilot’s communuications with the control tower suggest.

According to the recordings, the Polish pilot said that there were four people on the plane, indicating that the plane was empty apart from the four crew members.

This recording contradicts official statements that there were either 96 people or 132 people on the plane, including many top Polish civilian and military leaders.

The Polish pilot of the crashed plane IGA 703 communicates the information that there are four people on board as part of a routine exchange with the control tower as he approaches Smolensk airfield to land:

The Polish pilot says in Russian in the final sentence of the communication:

PILOT: “tolko posadka…  a u nas CZIETYRJE czielovieka.”

“only landing… and here (on board) we are FOUR people.”

The audio recording could provide corroboration to a video clip that has emerged in which four gunshots can be heard being fired among the wreckage of the plane in the immediate aftermath of the crash.

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It has been speculated that four gun shots were fired to kill the survivors of the crash.

The cockpit of the crashed plane appears to be in relatively good shape, and some of the crew could have been expected to have survived.

According to the official investigation, however, the crew were among the most difficult to identify by DNA analysis in Moscow where all the bodies were allegedly taken.

The audio recording suggesting that there were only four people on board the plane – the four crew members – would correlate with the four gun shots, and with the theory of four people being killed by four shots.

None of the video footage of the crash site has shown any dead bodies or parts of bodies or the personnel belongings of crash victims.

Officials have given different figures for the  number of people on the plane.

Russian officials at first said that 132 people were on the plane and 3 had survived. Polish officials said that there 89 people and 7 crew members ob board, totalling 96.

Every flight has to have a precise flight plan declared on arrival and departure including the number of passengers and crew. It is, therefore, not clear why there should be discrepancies.

In addition, the time point of the crash is not clear.

Russian investigators analysing the black boxes recovered from the crash site have said the plane crashed at 8:56 am CET.

But a Polish journalist alerted his newsroom at 8:49 am CET of the crash.

The black boxes stop recording at 8:41 am CET, making this the moment when the plane most likely crashed into the ground.

Smolensk air controllers are supposed to have lost contact with the plane at 8:39 am.

Already at 8:25 am, messages appear on Russian internet forums saying: „Something happened with the Polish airplane at our airport – all fire fighters are on alarm.”

The revealtion that only four people may have been on board the doomed plane will spark speculation that the military and civilians were abducted and killed in Poland.

Alternatively, the Polish delegation could have flown to Smolensk in different planes, adhering to security protocols. These planes could have been redirected to another airport and the passengers murdered on landing.

It is considered extremely improbable that so many Polish leaders would have ignored every security protocol and gone on the same plane together. But if they had been murdered elsewhere, a single plane crash could have been staged to explain their disappearance at the same time.

Adding to the mystery of who was on board, Polish journalists did not fly with the Presidential plane that April 10th morning as usual, and there appears to be no footage showing the Polish delegation boarding the plane at Warsaw.

President Lech Kaczynski is supposed to have made a call using a satellite phone to his brother shortly after 8 am, but it has been speculated that a voice synthesiser could have been used.

Also, Kaczynski usually phoned his brother, Jaroslaw, after he landed – and not before, it has been stated.

Another audio recording of the doomed flight suggests that the pilot had no problems with visibility with the pilot confirming „Haze” at 8 kilometres.

The term „Fog” is used to describe weather conditions when there is visibility under 1 kilometre in aviation terminology.

The plane appears to have been landing on the non standard side of Smolensk airport where there is dip in the landscape, according to maps:

http://picasaweb.google.ru/Amlmtr/MWzNeJ#5460505351912437762

It has been confirmed by Polish authorities, in the meantime, that the body of the man found in Poland was the missing signals officer Stefan Zielonka.

April 29, 2010
by Jane Burgermeister

Source: Birdflu666

See also:

Polish Opposition Party Demands International Investigation Into Plane Crash

Interfax: Terrain warning device was switched off on Polish crash plane

Were the Polish elite abducted and killed in Poland? Eyewitness, Polish TV journalist Slawomir Wisniewski, saw no evidence of dead bodies at crash site.

Polish President killed over opposing landmark Gazprom deal?

Jane Burgermeister: Polish Plane Crash Truth Video

5 thoughts on “Pilot Communication: Only 4 People on Doomed Polish Crash Plane

  1. So – someone posts a YouTube video and someone writes an article about it – and now there were only four people on the plane? Ridiculous.

    Where then do you suggest are all of these people?

    http://www.mswia.gov.pl/portal/pl/2/8365/Lista_pasazerow_i_zalogi_samolotu_TU154.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish_Air_Force_Tu-154_crash
    http://jnkish.blogspot.com/2010/04/polish-presidential-jet-crash.html

    List of Presidential plane crash victims

    1st
    Lech Kaczynski
    President of Poland
    2nd
    Maria Kaczynska
    Presidential Spouse
    3rd
    Ryszard Kaczorowski
    former president of Poland in Exile
    4th
    Agacka-Indeck, Joanna
    The President of the Superior Council of the Bar
    5th
    Bąkowska Eve
    granddaughter of Brig. Mieczyslaw Smorawinski
    6th
    Andrew Błasik
    Polish Air Force Commander
    7th
    Krystyna Bochenek
    Deputy Speaker of the Senate
    8th
    Borowska Anna Maria
    representative of Katyn Families and other organization
    9th
    Bartosz Borowski
    representative of Katyn Families and other organizations
    10th
    Tadeusz Buk
    Commander of Land Forces of Poland
    11th
    Chodakowski Miron
    Ordinary Orthodox Polish Army
    12th
    Czeslaw Cywinski
    President of the World Association of Home Army Soldiers
    13th
    Leszek Deptuła
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    14th
    Zbigniew Debski
    accompanying person
    15th
    Gregory Dolniak
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    16th
    Catherine Doraczyńska
    representative of the Presidential Chancellery
    17th
    Edward Duchnowski
    Secretary General of Association of Siberian Deportees
    18th
    Alexander Fedorowicz
    translator of Russian
    19th
    Janina Fetlińska
    Senator RP
    20th
    Jaroslaw Florczak
    officer BOR
    21st
    Frenchman Arthur
    officer BOR
    22nd
    Gągor Francis
    Chief of General Staff of Polish Army
    23rd
    Grazyna Gęsicka
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    24th
    Gilarski Kazimierz
    The commander Training Centre
    25th
    Przemyslaw Gosiewski
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    26th
    Gostomski Bronislaw
    Fr. prelate
    27th
    Mariusz Handzlik
    Undersecretary of State in the Chancellery of the President
    28th
    Roman Indrzejczyk
    Chaplain Presidential Election
    29th
    Paul Janeczek
    officer BOR
    30th
    Dariusz Jankowski
    Office of the Presidential Chancellery Service
    31st
    Izabela Jaruga-Nowacka
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    32nd
    Joseph Joniec
    President of the Association Parafiada
    33rd
    Sebastian Karpiniuk
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    34th
    Andrew Karweta
    Commander Navy
    35th
    Kazan Mariusz
    Director of the MFA Diplomatic Protocol
    36th
    Janusz Kochanowski
    Ombudsman
    37th
    Komornicki Stanislaw
    The representative of the Chapter of the Order of Military Virtutti
    38th
    Stanislaw Jerzy Komorowski
    Undersecretary of State, Defense
    39th
    Paul Krajewski
    officer BOR
    40th
    Andrew Kremer
    Undersecretary of State for Foreign Affairs
    41st
    Zdzislaw Król
    Chaplain Warsaw Katyn Families 1987-2007
    42nd
    Janusz Krupski
    Head of the Office for War Veterans and Repressed Persons
    43rd
    Janusz Kurtyka
    President of the Institute of National Remembrance
    44th
    Andrew Kwaśnik
    Chaplain of the Federation of Katyn Families
    45th
    Bronislaw Kwiatkowski
    Commander of the Polish Armed Forces Operational
    46th
    Lubin Wojciech
    Polish President’s physician
    47th
    Tadeusz Lutoborski
    representative of Katyn Families and other organization
    48th
    Barbara Mamińska
    Director of the Presidential Chancellery
    49th
    Mamontowicz-Łojek Zenon
    representative of Katyn Families and other organization
    50th
    Stefan Melaka
    President of the Katyn Committee
    The fifty-first
    Tomasz Merta
    Undersecretary of State in the Ministry of Culture
    52nd
    Stanisław Mikke
    Vice ROPWiM
    53rd
    Natallia-World Alexander
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    54th
    Natusiewicz-Mirer Janina
    accompanying person
    55th
    Peter Nosek
    officer BOR
    56th
    Peter Nurowski
    Head of the Polish Olympic Committee
    57th
    Bronislaw Orawiec-Löffler
    representative of Katyn Families and other organization
    58th
    John Osinski
    Ordinariate of the Polish Army
    59th
    Pilch, Adam
    Protestant Chaplaincy Field
    60th
    Catherine Piskorska
    representative of Katyn Families and other organization
    61st
    Maciej Plazynski
    President of the Association “Polish Community”
    62nd
    Tadeusz Płoski
    Ordinary of the Polish Army
    63rd
    Vladimir Potasiński
    Polish Special Forces Commander
    64th
    Andrew Carrier
    Secretary ROPWiM
    65th
    Krzysztof Putra
    Deputy Speaker of the Sejm
    66th
    Richard Matricaria
    Rector UKSW
    67th
    Arkadiusz Rybicki
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    68th
    Sariusz-Skąpski Andrew
    President of the Federation of Katyn Families
    69th
    Wojciech Seweryn
    representative of Katyn Families and other organization
    The 70th
    Slawomir Skrzypek
    President of the Polish National Bank
    71st
    Solski, Leszek
    representative of Katyn Families and other organization
    72nd
    Wladyslaw Stasiak
    Head of the Presidential Chancellery
    73rd
    Jacek Pig
    officer BOR
    74th
    Aleksander Szczyglo
    Head of National Security Bureau
    75th
    Jerzy Szmajdzinski
    Deputy Speaker of the Sejm
    76th
    Jolanta Szymanek-Deresz
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    77th
    Izabela Tomaszewska
    accompanying person
    78th
    Marek Uleryk
    officer BOR
    79th
    Anna Walentynowicz
    Founder of Free Trade Unions
    80th
    Walewska-Przyjałkowska Teresa
    Foundation “Golgotha of the East”
    81st
    Zbigniew Wassermann
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    82nd
    Water Wieslaw
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    83rd
    Edward Wojtas
    representative of the Polish Parliament
    84th
    Paweł Wypych
    Secretary of State in the President’s Chancellery
    85th
    Stanislaw Zajac
    Senator RP
    86th
    Janusz Zakrzenski
    outstanding Polish actor
    87th
    Zych Gabriel
    representative of Katyn Families and other organization
    88th
    Dariusz Michalowski
    officer BOR
    89th
    Pogródka-Węcławek Agnieszka
    officer BOR
    List of crew members

    90th
    Arkadiusz Protasiuk
    Master
    91st
    Robert Fine
    crew member
    92nd
    Andrew Michalak
    crew member
    93rd
    Arthur Ziętek
    crew member
    94th
    Barbara Maciejczyk
    stewardess
    95th
    Natalia Januszko
    stewardess
    96th
    Justin Montgomery
    stewardess

  2. J.N. Kish,

    why don’t you remain at The Final Phase Forum (FPF) where you belong.

    You and your comrades over there pretend that the FPF is a forum dedicated to discussing KGB defector Major Anatoliy Golitsyn, who defected to the West in 1961, warning the West that the USSR and all other communist states had agreed in 1959 to a long-term deception policy to lull the West into complacency. Golitsyn warned the West that the USSR would liberalize, that the Berlin Wall would come down and that the Warsaw Pact would be dissolved. All this Golitsyn predicted in 1961!

    However, over at the FPF, when I began analyzing the Polish incident in Russia using Golitsyn’s methodology to study Russian behavior, I was attacked for promoting conspiracy theories! Needless to say I was shocked at the accusations. I assumed persons commenting on the FPF would have known that those who run for national elections in Poland are communists, including the president Lech Kaczynski, who was a senior advisor to Solidarity. You remember what Golitsyn said about Solidarity, don’t you? Golitsyn said that the trade union was planned by the USSR and the East Bloc during 1958-1960. And guess who was an advisor to Lech Wałęsa (You know Lech Wałęsa, don’t you? A communist according to Golitsyn.). Lech Kaczynski was an advisor to Lech Wałęsa! So here we have Lech Kaczynski advising Lech Wałęsa and Solidarity! Now tell me, why would the FPF be spreading anti-Golitsyn propaganda by accepting as true that the Russians killed their man in Poland along with the rest of the Polish government?!

    An explanation of the Polish/Russian incident that is faithful to Golitsyn’s methodology is the following:

    To refresh Western minds that are ignorant of Anatoliy Golitsyn that there are still historical antagonisms between Russia and Poland, and by extension that old historical antagonisms exist between Russia and other “formerly” East Bloc communist nations. Of course, as we should know, no such antagonisms exist within the respective governments.

    or

    To provide political cover for East Bloc nations to refuse to install America’s missile shield. Romania is the current East Bloc nation that said it will install the missile system. Thanks to the fake Polish massacre, Romania can safely renege on the agreement.

    The above explanations for the Polish/Russian incident are worthy of Golitsyn’s methodology, not regurgitating Soviet disinformation that wants us to believe that Poland, and by extension other East Bloc nations, have real problems with the USSR. As you should know (if you’ve read Golitsyn), they don’t.

    Maybe you and your comrades over at the FPF also don’t believe Golitsyn when he said in 1961 that the emerging Sino/Soviet split was a fraud?

    You ask, “Where then do you suggest are all of these people?”

    Response: Are you kidding? Take a wild guess!
    ———————————–
    Over at the FPF the Robert Hanssen espionage case is also discussed. The FPF regurgitates the official narrative of a retired KGB officer assisting the FBI in their counterintelligence investigation of Hanssen, forgetting that the “collapse” of the USSR was a ruse, and that therefore the KGB would never assist in such an operation!

    A proper explanation of the Hanssen counterintelligence case using Golitsyn’s methodology would be the FBI wanted to cause chaos within the ranks of the KGB by letting it be known that they were assisted in the investigation by a KGB officer.

    Looks like the FPF completely forgot what Golitsyn has been saying since 1961. Or is that what the FPF wants the Soviet’s to think?

    By the way, I figured out what the FPF is, and what it’s up to. My suggestion is to close it down. The KGB/GRU are laughing at it. it ain’t fooling them!

  3. Addendum:

    I would like to tweak my analysis above of the Polish presidential aircraft that crashed in Smolensk, western Russia:

    The purpose for the fake aircraft crash operation was to cement in the minds of Western analysts that the Communists who still rule in the former East Bloc nations have disagreements with the Communists who still rule in Moscow. In other words, even though the Communists know that the West knows that Communists still maintain power in both the USSR and the former East Bloc nations, the intention of the Polish presidential aircraft crash was to convey to Western analysts that national rivalries are raising their heads, supplanting the Communist unity that KGB defector Major Anatoliy Golitsyn revealed to the West.

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